Curse

Dumachum · Jul 07, 2005, 12:04 AM // 00:04

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Originally Posted by Aniewiel

I like the idea of PvE only items. That way, they couldn't be used in the PvP part thereby maintaining the balance for the GvG/PvP action. That's a nice balance but probably a scripting nightmare.

I believe I made a thread suggesting this about a week ago and not a single damn person replied to it.

Nizzim · Jul 07, 2005, 12:05 AM // 00:05

thing is, there should be real goals you can accomplish after you beat it.

I know theres an expansion coming out, but how long will the buzz last? Will there be new char builds? New item variety? No one knows, so until then we should have goals and stuff to occupy us until then.

I mean, the only thing we could do was farm, and Anet snatched that as well. I'm not hating on the game, I love the effort put into it. I play it religiously. I just hope for better days

Ishamael Sedai · Jul 07, 2005, 12:07 AM // 00:07

you can always come up with new challenges such as trying to solo 28 level bosses, trying to solo 28 level mursaat bosses, trying to kill huge groups of enemies at once.

Nizzim · Jul 07, 2005, 12:08 AM // 00:08

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Originally Posted by PieXags

Yeah, sorry OP, but if you'd done ANY research on the game at all before you bought it you'd know that what you said the game needs less of...is exactly what they strived for when making the game. It's supposed to be skill and tactics more than equipment, they did that intentionally.

We need to show that post to all those who say that gear makes an insane difference.

I knew exactly what i was getting into, I dont have a problem with it, you guys seem to be getting confused. I said the fun factor has dimmed down, and if you've played as much as I have, you'd know. Now if youre gonna say, they designed it for caual players, well heres what I say. If youre designing a game for a certain demographic, be prepared to have something for the minority that purchase the game, because it shouldnt be so cut and dry without having a back bone for support

Ishamael Sedai · Jul 07, 2005, 12:08 AM // 00:08

plus what one other guy is working on getting the whole world map. i've probably put in 600 hours or more on one character and found two new zones the other day that i spent hours in.

Nizzim · Jul 07, 2005, 12:09 AM // 00:09

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Originally Posted by Ishamael Sedai

you can always come up with new challenges such as trying to solo 28 level bosses, trying to solo 28 level mursaat bosses, trying to kill huge groups of enemies at once.

but that doesnt benefit you at all, aside from the offchance of getting a skill once in a while.

EcPercy · Jul 07, 2005, 12:19 AM // 00:19

Well I have quit GW. I haven't logged into the game in weeks. Mainly because you get nothing (e.g. gold or items) for killing things. There is no incentive to play when the price of goods is way too high. I wanted to try and get the 15k armor, but where am I going to get 250k?(it probably costs more than this considering the amount of rare items that are required) I will not resort to buying gold on ebay.

Anyways, anet, thanks for taking away all of the good stuff that I liked about the game. I would expect to get more than 10gp for killing a big group of monsters. I know for sure that I will not be getting any of the expansions and I will probably sell my account / game cd on the internet.

Sir Skullcrasher · Jul 07, 2005, 12:25 AM // 00:25

not to offend anyone but geez if your bored of this game than quit playing it so damn much! i mean after you beat the game once and got everything, of course your get bored. So just relax and play the game at a slower pace instead of rushing through than come to the forum and post "OMG im bored, screw A-net and GW"!!

Or if you really don't like GW, play something else instead of coming to the forum and vent your anger and get flame on like a burgers on a 4th of july party.

<snip! Keep it constructive or else I'll steal your whole post next time

.. Aria>

Aniewiel · Jul 07, 2005, 01:24 AM // 01:24

aB- ALL games become tedious and boring after awhile. That's why one SHOULD leave them and perhaps come back to them in the future. No one's holding a gun to their heads forcing them to play. Of course they can complain but after the first 1000 times, it gets tiresome.

If it's so boring, leave. Come back later when it might seem like a whole new experience.

Santosh · Jul 07, 2005, 01:28 AM // 01:28

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Originally Posted by Nizzim

but that doesnt benefit you at all, aside from the offchance of getting a skill once in a while.

Just play another game. End of story.

nechronius · Jul 07, 2005, 01:34 AM // 01:34

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Originally Posted by Aniewiel

aB- ALL games become tedious and boring after awhile. That's why one SHOULD leave them and perhaps come back to them in the future. No one's holding a gun to their heads forcing them to play. Of course they can complain but after the first 1000 times, it gets tiresome.

If it's so boring, leave. Come back later when it might seem like a whole new experience.

Too true. I just finished the game with 3 different chars in a span of a week (to finish with all 3, not from start to finish!).

So what's left for me?

Trying a completely different character class. Doing more UW/FoW runs until I beat them (hard to do, they are after all very difficult). Play more PvP (not too hot on this one, I think my days of competitive gaming are pretty much over).

And if all else fails, I load up a different game. Or forget games and do something away from games, like finish fixing the car that's in my garage.

Boredom is a state of mind. The game did not "become boring." The product did not suddenly change, it's the person who has suddenly changed. If the game bores you, leave it, temporarily or permanently.

shinseikaze · Jul 07, 2005, 01:38 AM // 01:38

I dont see people complaining after you finish GTA San Andreas or any other game single player game

there's no monthly fees and you get FREE UPDATES so stop complaining

Icarium · Jul 07, 2005, 01:46 AM // 01:46

Holy , its not as if Nizzim is saying anybody who like this game sucks or anything . . so settle down, quit flaming , its a game not your long dead mother , your intrested still . . , why is it bothering so many people?

Anyways i understand how he's feeling, this happens to almost every game i get into (not GW yet, but who knows). I used to enjoy beating every game i came across, but now . . .it seems as if i dont much care to. Odd . .My sugestion would be along the lines of a few others . . .you still think its a good game, it just dosent have anything new to offer that "grabs" you. So just leave it for awhile a day,a week,a month ,whatever and check it out later on.

See you around

Nizzim · Jul 07, 2005, 01:48 AM // 01:48

thank you so much icarium

and heres what i do, I'll play GW for like 2 hours, i'll get bored, then I'll go watch Tv or play CS for a while. Then go back to GW.

Icarium · Jul 07, 2005, 01:53 AM // 01:53

Yea, it totaly helps if you have more than one game around that your into. I for the most part have around 4-5 games that ill play switch off from. Really helps to not smoke through one in 3 days and feel ripped off for $50 :P

Dax · Jul 07, 2005, 02:20 AM // 02:20

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Originally Posted by PieXags

Yeah, sorry OP, but if you'd done ANY research on the game at all before you bought it you'd know that what you said the game needs less of...is exactly what they strived for when making the game. It's supposed to be skill and tactics more than equipment, they did that intentionally.

We need to show that post to all those who say that gear makes an insane difference.

Ironically if you play the game and read posts in the forum, you'd think you'd hafta pay people to get to the endgame armor to appreciate this game.

Sorry if I'm being sarcastic, I'm playing this game slowly myself but I hate to say "I told you so" to the people who wanna rush through this game claiming that you gotta have the cool stuff right away to compete.... Let's face it, there's not much to this game, that's the way it was designed..you don't have to grind. Unfortunately this was intended for the casual gamer. For the hardcore MMO players, there's not much to do.

I think the best intentions it was supposed to be a game about skill, but since it's incredibly easy to pay someoneto be able to be equipped with the best that a level 20 can get . Which begs the question why play the game if you want to play with other people. With no crafting or tradeskills this game would get old quick at the pace most MMORPGs are played.

Silmor · Jul 07, 2005, 02:26 AM // 02:26

Dax, the skill part assumes that you are max level and have the best armour and a large variety of skills at your disposal, then improve your character comprehension and playing style/skill to beat those challenges you couldn't beat before.

In a traditional MMORPG you'd go back to mass-murder more rats until you had enough cash to get better gear, and possibly a couple of levels on your character. In Guild Wars you have all the tools necessary to beat the challenge at your disposal, you just have to pick the right tools for the job, and learn to use them well.

Dax · Jul 07, 2005, 02:47 AM // 02:47

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Originally Posted by Silmor

Dax, the skill part assumes that you are max level and have the best armour and a large variety of skills at your disposal, then improve your character comprehension and playing style/skill to beat those challenges you couldn't beat before.

In a traditional MMORPG you'd go back to mass-murder more rats until you had enough cash to get better gear, and possibly a couple of levels on your character. In Guild Wars you have all the tools necessary to beat the challenge at your disposal, you just have to pick the right tools for the job, and learn to use them well.

Please... The skill part assumes you are going to be playing someone of equally or slightly above your level. This game makes it entirely too easy for those who can figure out how to exploit the game to do so.

Look I'm not saying this game is not good... I'm just saying there are people who's entire gameplay experience is to spend lot's of hours on MMORPGs (as is with the case with most MMO's).... which this game tries not to do for the 'casual' gamer.

If you want the perfect example of this....how many people in the short time this game has been out for retail have reached level20 and a have multiple level 20 characters who are getting bored?

deathwearer · Jul 07, 2005, 04:46 AM // 04:46

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Originally Posted by stumpy

I'm sorry but did you fail to read the box or the website before buying the game?

Everything you disagree with about Guildwars ... IS in fact why the rest of us play. My suggestion is for you to go back to D2 if you are unhappy. Remember, GW is in its birth ... D2 is years old.

sad to see posts like this but your looking for the wrong thing here ... everyone else thrives on this game because of the balannced boredom you spoke of. Guess we are all missing something here.

totaly agree on that. I play this game because it's not like D2 "itamz and lvl".
I play GW because of the PvP, the strategic and build aspect. It's all depend of your team build and your strategy. Finally a game where you can't be considered as "God"

Phades · Jul 07, 2005, 04:48 AM // 04:48

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Originally Posted by PieXags

Yeah, sorry OP, but if you'd done ANY research on the game at all before you bought it you'd know that what you said the game needs less of...is exactly what they strived for when making the game. It's supposed to be skill and tactics more than equipment, they did that intentionally.

We need to show that post to all those who say that gear makes an insane difference.

To be honest, i find it quite sad that we are nearly forced to perform in depth research on the game, the company, and the genre the game is in and how it rates against others within the genre before we can go out and buy a game. Once upon a time, there were lots of games that were just released, played, were fun, and had replay to them without things like bugs and holes in the gameplay. As the games became more complex, the bugs got worse and then as a recourse the games' content became reduced. There are other considerations as well lately when picking up a game. Personally if every individual is basically forced to become a qualified game reviewer in order to make a decent decision and be happy with it over time, id find it rather pointless to even have such jouralists being given exclusive acess to things when everyone will need to know the information presented within. Rather than forcing everyone to wade through all the bs and later find out all the missed out topics and emphasis placed on the sale rather than the content of the game.